tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-814549419838495324.post9211200519733944039..comments2023-09-25T10:15:41.979-04:00Comments on NYSocBoy's Beefcake and Bonding: Sherlock Holmes, Gay IconNYSocBoyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06658785942817017972noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-814549419838495324.post-2615424515341260842021-08-15T10:41:20.972-04:002021-08-15T10:41:20.972-04:00There is an extended rear-nude scene in THE ADVENT...There is an extended rear-nude scene in THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES' SMARTER BROTHER. Holmes's younger brother Sigerson and his Watson surrogate attend a formal dance UNaware that a buzzsaw has sliced off the back of their suits.<br />Thing is, it's Gene Wilder and Marty Feldman. So...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-814549419838495324.post-44252430295438367882021-08-04T13:10:32.224-04:002021-08-04T13:10:32.224-04:00Your reply contains a footnote but no citation. A...Your reply contains a footnote but no citation. Are you quoting from Dove's "Greek Homosexuality"? It was published in 1978, so it's a little outdated now. I prefer "Controlling Desires: Sexuality in Ancient Greece and Rome," which argues that every man was assumed to experience sexual desire for people in a lower social position, boys or women.NYSocBoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658785942817017972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-814549419838495324.post-59945363916508746822021-08-04T12:17:40.190-04:002021-08-04T12:17:40.190-04:00Refer to Greek books which display open pedophelia...Refer to Greek books which display open pedophelia and gay romance. Aristotle is spoken of as gay, as was Plato. Michelangelo would take on talented "apprentices" who were "beautiful" and his lovers. He often represented them as androgynous or female in paintings. It is up to interpretation but in Homer's "The lliad" there was great love between Achilles and Patroclus. "The most common form of same-sex relationships between males in Greece was paiderastia (pederasty), meaning "boy love". It was a relationship between an older male and an adolescent youth. A boy was considered a "boy" until he was able to grow a full beard. In Athens the older man was called erastes. He was to educate, protect, love, and provide a role model for his eromenos, whose reward for him lay in his beauty, youth, and promise." men, like their earlier counterparts, played an educational and instructive role in the lives of their young companions; likewise, just as in earlier times, they shared a sexual relationship with their boys. Penetrative sex, however, was seen as demeaning for the passive partner, and outside the socially accepted norm.[7] In ancient Greece, sex was generally understood in terms of penetration, pleasure, and dominance, rather than a matter of the sexes of the.<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16767657735650217022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-814549419838495324.post-3881152248418206212021-04-08T08:25:00.646-04:002021-04-08T08:25:00.646-04:00During the 1999th century, one might be defined as...During the 1999th century, one might be defined as a "pederast" or an "effeminate", while (of course) simply experimenting spread by default. What makes gay identity novel is the idea that both partners are different in the same way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-814549419838495324.post-7513457379709755772012-12-16T10:51:31.431-05:002012-12-16T10:51:31.431-05:00Exclusive same-sex desire has always been present,...Exclusive same-sex desire has always been present, but many past societies didn't define people as gay or straight. They started doing it in the West during the 19th century, so Doyle was probably familiar with the concept. But his intention is irrelevant; meaning arises in the interplay between the text and the reader.NYSocBoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658785942817017972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-814549419838495324.post-51888591129081657042012-12-16T10:44:32.931-05:002012-12-16T10:44:32.931-05:00Were there gays in the 1800s? I thought there wer...Were there gays in the 1800s? I thought there weren't any until the 1960's.NYKidnoreply@blogger.com